Friday, November 7. 2008
Some Problems With Socialism
re. "perhaps many people who recognize the ideals of socialism in our president-elect actually think it's a good thing. Can that be true?"
I think it is true. A book I read earlier in the year Crunchy Cons by Rod Dreher. (It's got a great subtitle, but too long to remember or include.) In his book, Mr Dreher tried to show that not all conservatives fit the stereotypical mainstream America "moving on up" mentality, and so were marginalized from the mainstream Conservative movement.
He showed many ways in which he felt there was a movement toward more eco-friendly, community centric ideas among conservatives. Things like recycling, eating organic, walking or taking the bus, buying old homes in old neighborhoods...
I could really appreciate much of what he said, because I have often felt that certain topics have been hijacked by the Democrats and so there is no room for dialogue on such ideas within conservatism.
But, my biggest problem with this guy is that he seemed to think that conservatives were all about money. "It's always the bottom line with conservatives."
He wants to draw a natural connection between people of faith and this desire to help others and take care of the earth and our communities. He refers to it as sacramental living (Traditional Catholic and Eastern Orthodox background). I think what he means is kind of similar to the Lutheran doctrine of vocation. Having our decisions for every-day living being a thoughtful reflection of our faith.
But somehow, he wants to work through politics to pass policy which would take into account the leanings of like-minded conservatives. Without realizing that the underlying difference in conservatism is not the all about money issue, but the limited government issue.
I heard him interviewed on Public Radio's Speaking of Faith recently, and I got so mad listening to him, I was ready to call in until Joe reminded me that it was a rebroadcast from an earlier show. Again, he spoke as though he only saw selfishness in mainstream conservatives.
And this guy has a pretty big following. There are web groups dedicated to Crunchy-Con discussion and philosophy.
Another example is a friend with whom, in June, I discussed the upcoming election. She was concerned that conservatives were not willing to give of what we had toward lifting others up through the government programs. And in fact she even said something very close to this, I cannot remember her exact words right now. "But isn't it also important for us as Christians to help others by supporting these programs and those who wish to implement them?"
And this is a friend who has always been very conservative.
I think the election and campaign season this time has been the worst for those who depend upon the MSM for their information. There are many people out there who have typically considered themselves Republicans but do not make use of other sources of information. Many consider talk radio too extreme or the hosts too obnoxious for their taste, so they refuse to listen. And worse they assume that those of us who do listen have been brainwashed or taken in. So then we are no longer considered reliable sources of information.
I know of several people who said things like, "Well I watched both conventions and the debates, so that should be enough to make my decision, right? I'm getting the information straight from the candidates themselves."
I guess this got longer than I intended, but, yes, I do think that many people think the socialist type ideas are fine and even good. I think our education systems (not just public) have let us down to the point that we as a society are no longer capable of either historical analysis or critical thought.
And the very fabric of our lives has become strongly inclined toward emotional decisions rather than logical process.
Mary
Jesse, thank you for what you are doing. I love the new site. You are a shepherd of God--small "s" on purpose as you would like. I wish I could respond more, but working 24/7 at two full time jobs and being a father, well, I know you understand. Keep fighting the Good Fight. Your posts are so good for me. Hopefully soon we can speak on the phone about all the ELS "crap" and hopefully we can speak face to face very soon. I do have vacation days coming and I think it could happen very much sooner than later. God be with you always, brother. You and I think alike not only theologically, but politically. Not in the that we are both conservatives, but that we both trust the One True God and His Wisdom and Will. I would have rather have the most evil ruler which would cause more to come to the knowledge of the Truth, than the most awesome ruler which would allow the peoples of the world to think that they did not need The Saviour--Jesus the Christ of all. Amen brother.
Kent--Pastor and social services worker in the land of the pot growers, sellers, non tax-paying, democrat, losers!

